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. >> ah, yes, president obama as media critic. i personally love when any president jabs the press because it gets us talking about fairness, both the medias and the administrations. eric dagen is the critic for the npr. jane, you used to be a long time fox news contribute for, so i wonder, do you think the president's right? i think he believes it. he was speak to an audience of young people at my university and he was saying that the idealism of young people was a great thing, clearly he wanted to address that audience and it is true that the media are divided i'd logically in cable use. i think he didn't want to call out fox necessarily because they haven't figured out how to deal with fox, frankly, but there's splits in the media. >> i think it's hypocritical to come on a channel that's known for catering to liberals and criticize the press for being div divisive. >> i spent 250 pages in my book last year that came out last year, race baiter talking about this exact issue, that there are cable channels that segment the audienc
. >> ah, yes, president obama as media critic. i personally love when any president jabs the press because it gets us talking about fairness, both the medias and the administrations. eric dagen is the critic for the npr. jane, you used to be a long time fox news contribute for, so i wonder, do you think the president's right? i think he believes it. he was speak to an audience of young people at my university and he was saying that the idealism of young people was a great thing, clearly...
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obama talked about how we can all learn from mandela's legacy. >> we will not likely see the likes of nelson mandela again, so it falls to us as best we can to forward the example that he set, to make decisions guided not by hate but by love, never discount the difference that one person can make to strive for a future that is worthy of his sacrifice. >> nelson mandela inspired many american politics, maxine borders is a member of the u.s. congress who knew mandela. she is a national chair of the black caucus and was behind if campaign to di vest from the apartheid era. she joins us now from los angeles. thanks for being with us. when you think back now on nelson mandela, what is his legacy and what have we lost? >> well, nelson mandela was an extraordinary human being and he showed us what courage really is. not only did he put his life on the line and was prepared to die, to end apartheid in south africa, he persevered, he ended up in prison for 27 years and he walked out and he walked out a magnificent human being who talked about reconciliation and bringing people together because
obama talked about how we can all learn from mandela's legacy. >> we will not likely see the likes of nelson mandela again, so it falls to us as best we can to forward the example that he set, to make decisions guided not by hate but by love, never discount the difference that one person can make to strive for a future that is worthy of his sacrifice. >> nelson mandela inspired many american politics, maxine borders is a member of the u.s. congress who knew mandela. she is a...
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that's kind of the same message that president obama has been talking about although obviously very different in terms of the circumstances but talking about income inequality in general, talking about failing schools in general, talking about how many individuals are in the judicial system in general. not specifically focusing on african-americans although on occasion such as father's day he does talk about messages for african-americans but often when he does try to do that, the same black leaders criticize him for lecturing him. in a way it's a double-edged sword. he can't win. >> and let's also listen to something else that was significant. this was a moment that a lot of people really resonated with. >> there are too many leaders who claim solidarity with madiba's struggle for freedom but do not tolerate dissent from their own people. and there are too many of us, too many of us on the sidelines comfortable in complacency or cynicism. when our voices must be heard. >> other world leaders too, the remarkable thing we've been saying is the sort of breadth of leaders who were there. was the
that's kind of the same message that president obama has been talking about although obviously very different in terms of the circumstances but talking about income inequality in general, talking about failing schools in general, talking about how many individuals are in the judicial system in general. not specifically focusing on african-americans although on occasion such as father's day he does talk about messages for african-americans but often when he does try to do that, the same black...
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and i'm talking about the ones that have the easiest time traveling. president and mrs. obama set out this morning for south africa and quite possibly the largest gathering of world leaders in african history. the occasion, of course, is the public memorial for nelson mandela who died last thursday at age 95. more than 90 heads of state or government are going to join some 90,000 south africans and mourners who will converge on the soccer stadium in johannesburg and that is set for tomorrow. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu will not be among them. they say the trip will cost too much. and because of the short notice, security could not be guaranteed for the prime minister. >>> tomorrow's service is by the far the largest but it's not the only one. from wednesday through friday, mandela's body will lie in state at the union buildings in pretoria. on sunday he'll be laid to rest in his hometown. wurch last known photographs of nelson mandela was snapped in may during a visit by his 3-year-old great grandson. they're holding happeneds. it might be the last known ph
and i'm talking about the ones that have the easiest time traveling. president and mrs. obama set out this morning for south africa and quite possibly the largest gathering of world leaders in african history. the occasion, of course, is the public memorial for nelson mandela who died last thursday at age 95. more than 90 heads of state or government are going to join some 90,000 south africans and mourners who will converge on the soccer stadium in johannesburg and that is set for tomorrow....
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>> i think as the president talked this morning about the fact that our work continues, it is not incredibly difficult to pay hommage to the movement and making south africa strong, unified, democratic and nonracist society that president mandela talked about continues, but this work continues as the president talked about the need to make sure that children do not go hungry and that we don't have run-down schools. those are problems not only in south africa, but in the united states of america. for us, carol, i hope this will be a teachable moment, that we will raise the conversation in our own nation, go to a higher moral plane that, we will focus on the things that bring us together. when the people at the bottom have what they need, basic needs, basic things that make for human dignity, education, food, a living wage, that the whole society is made better. if we cash in this moment, if we build monuments rather than a better world, we will not pay the tribute to nelson mandela that he justly deserves. >> raphael warnock, senior pastor from the ebenezer baptist church in miami. >> so good
>> i think as the president talked this morning about the fact that our work continues, it is not incredibly difficult to pay hommage to the movement and making south africa strong, unified, democratic and nonracist society that president mandela talked about continues, but this work continues as the president talked about the need to make sure that children do not go hungry and that we don't have run-down schools. those are problems not only in south africa, but in the united states of...
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obama's national security advisor. he is now a distinguished fellow at the council on foreign relations. he joins me to talk about recent developments and the issues he was deeply involved in at the white house from iran to winding down the war in afghanistan to mitigating tensions between china and japan. welcome back to the show. >> great to see you. >> let's 23irs talk about iran, you were deeply involved in this whole policy, it appears that what we're saying is we need iran to essentially shut downing parts of its nuclear program so that it cannot have the kind of breakout capacity that -- he says we are not going to dismantle a single thing, we're willing to freeze, we're willing to have everything monitored, but no dismantling, how do you bridge those two positions? >> the reason we're here is the enormous pressure that was put on -- president rowhani took a max mallist stand. they're going to have to assure the international community in very concrete, verifiable and solid ways that they're not working on a nuc
obama's national security advisor. he is now a distinguished fellow at the council on foreign relations. he joins me to talk about recent developments and the issues he was deeply involved in at the white house from iran to winding down the war in afghanistan to mitigating tensions between china and japan. welcome back to the show. >> great to see you. >> let's 23irs talk about iran, you were deeply involved in this whole policy, it appears that what we're saying is we need iran to...
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this was a personal moment for barack obama who talked about the influence of nelson mandela when he was a young man. >> reporter: that's right, john. it was just huge. president obama was 19 years old when he first got involved with the anti-apartheid movement. the first time he gave what being call a political speech was back in 1981. he was a sophomore at occidental college when he spoke out against apartheid. for president obama, nelson mandela was a personal hero and personal idol who struggled his earliest ambitions. >> i am one of the first who grew inspiration from nelson mandela's life. my first political action, the first thing i ever did that involved an issue of policy or politics was a protest against apartheid. >> reporter: they met in person only briefly in 2005 before obama became president. the two leaders, each standing in history as the first black president of his nation, spoke occasionally by phone. president obama penned the forward for mandela's 2010 memoir "conversations with myself." he wrote his example helped awakened me to the wider world and the obligatio
this was a personal moment for barack obama who talked about the influence of nelson mandela when he was a young man. >> reporter: that's right, john. it was just huge. president obama was 19 years old when he first got involved with the anti-apartheid movement. the first time he gave what being call a political speech was back in 1981. he was a sophomore at occidental college when he spoke out against apartheid. for president obama, nelson mandela was a personal hero and personal idol...
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. >> and jake joins me now to talk about these presidential journeys. so, jake tapper, first, let's begin with what more do you know about what happened aboard air force one? >> well, according to mike duffy and nancy gibbs' book, "the president's club" ford and carter bonded a lot on that 1981 trip about a few things they had in common. they hated fund-raising and they were still having to fund raise because they were -- >> hang on, tapper. i should have been more clear, let's begin with the air force one. did you see notes for this particular trip and -- >> with the current. >> let's begin with that and i'll ask you a follow. >> and jake joins me now to talk about these presidential journeys. let's begin with this current flight. what more do we know about what happened aboard air force one? >> president obama in his cabin and the bushes were given the area where the medical cabin, where the doctor usually sets up and former secretary of state, hillary clinton, is set up in a cabin that would normally go to a senior staffer. so, they were all given th
. >> and jake joins me now to talk about these presidential journeys. so, jake tapper, first, let's begin with what more do you know about what happened aboard air force one? >> well, according to mike duffy and nancy gibbs' book, "the president's club" ford and carter bonded a lot on that 1981 trip about a few things they had in common. they hated fund-raising and they were still having to fund raise because they were -- >> hang on, tapper. i should have been more...
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if they fix this, i don't think this is what we're going to be talking about. if he doesn't, this could be one of the issues we think about when we think about president obama. >> the white house yesterday called a report about obama's meetings with sebelius misleading andist based on a "false premise." >> texas, oklahoma, arkansas, if you haven't heard yet, it is freezing maybe. that will stay with us. jim, a man who doesn't stand still. but jim has afib, atrial fibrillation -- an irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. that puts jim at a greater risk of stroke. for years, jim's medicine tied him to a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but now, with once-a-day xarelto®, jim's on the move. jim's doctor recommended xarelto®. like warfarin, xarelto® is proven effective to reduce afib-related stroke risk. but xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem. that doesn't require routine blood monitoring. so jim's not tied to that monitoring routine
if they fix this, i don't think this is what we're going to be talking about. if he doesn't, this could be one of the issues we think about when we think about president obama. >> the white house yesterday called a report about obama's meetings with sebelius misleading andist based on a "false premise." >> texas, oklahoma, arkansas, if you haven't heard yet, it is freezing maybe. that will stay with us. jim, a man who doesn't stand still. but jim has afib, atrial...
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will the bulk of them run on obama care? >> i think when you talk to 2014 candidates now, they are extremely nervous about this because mo may be right in the passage of time this turns out to be a very successful program that transforms the american medical system. hard to envision it having sorted out its many problems by next november. democrats are very concerned about how they handle it and what you hear democratic candidates say now is it's a good plan, we need to fix it, acknowledging there are things that need to change. hard to do when republicans won't get on board -- >> i think what you're hearing more and more democrats say it's a good plan, there are problems that need to be fixed, and that's what we are trying to do while the other side is trying to break it. the other side is trying to kill the plan and going so far as to shut the government down causing a $24 billion hit to our economy. that's not the solution. the solution is to strengthen it where it needs to be strengthened, fix stuff that needs to be fixe
will the bulk of them run on obama care? >> i think when you talk to 2014 candidates now, they are extremely nervous about this because mo may be right in the passage of time this turns out to be a very successful program that transforms the american medical system. hard to envision it having sorted out its many problems by next november. democrats are very concerned about how they handle it and what you hear democratic candidates say now is it's a good plan, we need to fix it,...
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talk about this relationship between president mandela and president obama. >> you know, wolf, i thought the president was very eloquent yesterday, talking about what president mandela meant to him. in many ways i think mandela was partly responsible for barack obama's own political awakening. one of the great legacies of mandela particularly in america is that it was an awakening for so many people that people were looking at south africa, this land that with terrible prejudice, terrible authoritarian government and we were looking at it as almost a proxy for what had happened in america during the civil rights movement and i think it awakened and it was a revelation for many, many americans. >> i'm sure president obama and i'm sure you'll agree was deeply disappointed when he was in south africa earlier this year, with his family, he was not able to go and meet president mandela, because he was so gravely ill. i'm sure he would have loved to have done that, but he obviously couldn't. he'll head to south africa in the coming days for the funeral, this will be an important event not only
talk about this relationship between president mandela and president obama. >> you know, wolf, i thought the president was very eloquent yesterday, talking about what president mandela meant to him. in many ways i think mandela was partly responsible for barack obama's own political awakening. one of the great legacies of mandela particularly in america is that it was an awakening for so many people that people were looking at south africa, this land that with terrible prejudice, terrible...
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obama's national security adviser. he's now a distinguished fellow at the council on federal relations. he joins me now to talk about iran to winding down the war in afghanistan to mitigating tensions between china and japan. >> thank you, fareed. >> you were deeply involved in the whole policy with iran. it seems we're at two positions that cannot be bridged. it appears that what we are saying is we need iran to essentially shut down parts of its program to ensure it cannot have a kind of breakout capacity that would allow it to the weaponize its program. the president says we are not going to dismantle a single thing. we're willing to freeze, have everything monitored, but no dismantling. how do you bridge those two positions? >> well, the reason we're here, of course, is because of the tremendous pressure that's been put on the iranian economy through the u.s.-led sanctions effort. president rouhani took a stand in the article you referenced, but there's going to have to be roll back of the program. they will have t
obama's national security adviser. he's now a distinguished fellow at the council on federal relations. he joins me now to talk about iran to winding down the war in afghanistan to mitigating tensions between china and japan. >> thank you, fareed. >> you were deeply involved in the whole policy with iran. it seems we're at two positions that cannot be bridged. it appears that what we are saying is we need iran to essentially shut down parts of its program to ensure it cannot have a...
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, if you can have a very serious respectful talk. we used to call barack obama no-drama obama. this isn't his style to go and style the show by making a grand gesture like this. but any time somebody wins a nobel peace prize like mandela, the world embraces them and the rules are broken. i remember sadat's funeral, all these people that weren't talking ended up talking at sadat's funeral and had a great healing effect in some ways. anything's possible here, but i don't think this is going to be a breakthrough moment. i think the big thing is what you just talked about, security. can we get through this without some horrible terrorist event or some major bad moment occurring. so i think everybody will be trying to get through the day. >> thank you so much. >>> still to come. why is the nsa spying on video gamers. >>> and then, what caused this plane to crash in san francisco earlier this year? new details are emerging about the flight's final moments. >>> and later, some of america's major cities are bracing for some real snow. just b
, if you can have a very serious respectful talk. we used to call barack obama no-drama obama. this isn't his style to go and style the show by making a grand gesture like this. but any time somebody wins a nobel peace prize like mandela, the world embraces them and the rules are broken. i remember sadat's funeral, all these people that weren't talking ended up talking at sadat's funeral and had a great healing effect in some ways. anything's possible here, but i don't think this is going to be...
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obama. i want to talk about security altogether. that whole group on air force one. do they all hang out together? >> actually they did, anderson. we're told the bushes and obamas and secretary clinton were in the private conference room around the table hanging out and actually exchanging stories about their encounters with nelson mandela. would have been a fascinating conversation because between the three contingants there having these experiences with mandela that spanned three administrations and then after that, you know how it is on a long haul flight, even if you like the person you're traveling with, you need a little down time and alone time. the obamas retired to their cabin and the bushes took the medical office right behind their cabin and secretary clinton retired to the senior staff cabin. >> and president clinton, former president carter, they're coming separately on different flights. so many world leaders, very interesting not only from a security standpoint, but just logistically. you have world leaders that do not communicate with the united state
obama. i want to talk about security altogether. that whole group on air force one. do they all hang out together? >> actually they did, anderson. we're told the bushes and obamas and secretary clinton were in the private conference room around the table hanging out and actually exchanging stories about their encounters with nelson mandela. would have been a fascinating conversation because between the three contingants there having these experiences with mandela that spanned three...
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but you know, president obama always talks about wanting to grow the economy from the middle class out, not from the top down. when you look at this jobs report, are there other weaknesses that you see? >> i just think that in general, the big weakness here is we still don't have enough jobs. 200,000's a great number but realistically, at this point in this recovery, we need to start worrying about is that going to be a high water mark as opposed to a step up to like 300,000, 400,000 a month which is what would really again, create the kind of pressure upward that we're just getting everybody a raise, basically. >> jim tankersley, thank you so much. we appreciate it. you look very sharp. i appreciate the beard as well. >> you should try it. >>> coming up on "the lead," he was in the oval office while nelson mandela sat in a prison cell. coming up next, we have former president jimmy carter who will share his memories of the south african leader with you and me. >>> plus, you might think partisan politics couldn't taint the legacy of an international icon. you might think that. you woul
but you know, president obama always talks about wanting to grow the economy from the middle class out, not from the top down. when you look at this jobs report, are there other weaknesses that you see? >> i just think that in general, the big weakness here is we still don't have enough jobs. 200,000's a great number but realistically, at this point in this recovery, we need to start worrying about is that going to be a high water mark as opposed to a step up to like 300,000, 400,000 a...
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, if you can have a very serious respigectfu talk. we used to call barack obama no-drama obama. this isn't his style to go and style the show by making a grand gesture like this. but any time somebody wins a nobel peace prize like mandela, the world embraces them and the rules are broken. i remember sadat's funeral, all these people that weren't talking ended up talking at sadat's funeral and had a great healing effect in some ways. anything's possible here, but i don't think this is going to be a breakthrough moment. i think the big thing is what you just talked about, security. can we get through this without some horrible terrorist event or some major bad moment occurring. so i think everybody will be trying to get through the day. >> thank you so much. >>> still to come. why is the nsa spying on video gamers. >>> and then, what caused this plane to crash in san francisco earlier this year? new details are emerging about the flight's final moments. >>> and later, some of america's major cities are bracing for some real snow. so you
, if you can have a very serious respigectfu talk. we used to call barack obama no-drama obama. this isn't his style to go and style the show by making a grand gesture like this. but any time somebody wins a nobel peace prize like mandela, the world embraces them and the rules are broken. i remember sadat's funeral, all these people that weren't talking ended up talking at sadat's funeral and had a great healing effect in some ways. anything's possible here, but i don't think this is going to...
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the brief moment shared between president obama and cuban president raul castro. ahead, what does it mean in terms of a thaw possibly in relations. >> plus, round two of snow and ice. bad weather hitting the northeast. even federal officers in d.c. are shut down because of all of this. also -- >> that was a -- oh. >> i'm here, i'm here. >> that is our own reporter in the middle of all of that violent internal conflict raging in central african republic. now world leaders are calling for calm. welcome to "around the world." i'm suzanne malveaux. >> and i'm michael holmes. for millions of people around the world, this day is all about any son mandela. >> memorial service
the brief moment shared between president obama and cuban president raul castro. ahead, what does it mean in terms of a thaw possibly in relations. >> plus, round two of snow and ice. bad weather hitting the northeast. even federal officers in d.c. are shut down because of all of this. also -- >> that was a -- oh. >> i'm here, i'm here. >> that is our own reporter in the middle of all of that violent internal conflict raging in central african republic. now world leaders...
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president obama and the first lady will head to south africa next week to honor the south african leader thafl be traveling with former president bush and laura bush. wolf blitzer talked with clinton about the advice for mandela that guided him through some very difficult times. >> he was saying, if you're in public life and you have public responsibilities, you cannot be free and effective unless you have no personal feelings of anger. i remember one day, about a month after that whole impeachment business was over, henry hyde who had run the whole show, unbelievably enough, maybe it was a few months after, with you it was shortly after. asked for a meeting at the white house. for something that he was really interested in, he brought a delegation and my staff said i can't believe you're going to do. this i said it is my job to do it. he is a member of congress and a senior member. and they came and left. and as far as they knew, i did not even remember what had happened. i was able to do that because of what nelson mandela did for me. the way he help me. >> joining us now, cornell west
president obama and the first lady will head to south africa next week to honor the south african leader thafl be traveling with former president bush and laura bush. wolf blitzer talked with clinton about the advice for mandela that guided him through some very difficult times. >> he was saying, if you're in public life and you have public responsibilities, you cannot be free and effective unless you have no personal feelings of anger. i remember one day, about a month after that whole...
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we still vlt concern that we're going to be talking about more power lines coming down, another quarter inch of ice is possible and we have the threat for the power lines to come down this evening. >> president obama defended his six-month nuclear deal with iran today when he spoke at a prominent d.c. forum. the deal requires iran to temporarily cap some nuclear activities for reduction of sanctions. >> one can envision an ideal world in which iran said we'll destroy every element and facility and you name it, it's all gone. i can envision a world in which congress passed every one of my bills that i put forth. i mean, there are a lot of things that i can envision that would be wonderful. >> at least he's realistic. the forum is being held by the brookings institution, a washington think tank. >> the americans nearly won the arab's got talent competition, finishing in the top three in the contest. ♪ ♪ >> some journalists in the middle east criticized the decision to allow an american in the competition, but the audience and the judges, they loved her take on traditional songs, while
we still vlt concern that we're going to be talking about more power lines coming down, another quarter inch of ice is possible and we have the threat for the power lines to come down this evening. >> president obama defended his six-month nuclear deal with iran today when he spoke at a prominent d.c. forum. the deal requires iran to temporarily cap some nuclear activities for reduction of sanctions. >> one can envision an ideal world in which iran said we'll destroy every element...
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we're talking about the sheriff rick clark who says he doesn't think it's right. >> the show of sign of respect for what nelson mandela has done. i have no problem with lowering it in south africa and our country, but it is our people who sacrifice for our country. >> while has rare for a u.s. president to order flags lowered for a nonu.s. citizen, it has happened. george bush did it for pope john paul ii and bill clinton did it for yitzhak rabin. president johnson lowered flags for winston churchill. >>> still to come on "new day," last night florida state didn't just beat duke, who did you pick in that game? >> let's not talk about that. >> they crushed duke. check out the quarterback there. hurdling over the defense for the touchdown en route to victory. highlights, upsets from all of saturday's big games. that's coming up. >>> plus, exploring mandela's message of forgiveness. we're going to talk about what it means to forgive. and if it matters why you choose to do it. ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it g
we're talking about the sheriff rick clark who says he doesn't think it's right. >> the show of sign of respect for what nelson mandela has done. i have no problem with lowering it in south africa and our country, but it is our people who sacrifice for our country. >> while has rare for a u.s. president to order flags lowered for a nonu.s. citizen, it has happened. george bush did it for pope john paul ii and bill clinton did it for yitzhak rabin. president johnson lowered flags for...
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. >> both michelle obama and barack obama have said how much he inspired them when mrs. michelle met him last year. >> let's listen in. >> we were talking earlier about the name nelson mandela. the name also madiba. explain that because many refer to him as madiba. >> it's better than mr. mandela or mandela. he actually preferred to be called madiba and i think people didn't know how to refer to him. the sense he was a father figure or a grandfather played in and he was radooted to his south african traditions. a lot of people just blankedly referred to him as tata which is father. when you talk about tata only one really father and the father of a nation but that personal intimate. no, he is my father too. i know when i've spoken to his personal assistant she didn't know what to call him. she said mr. mandela felt too form willal and mr. president was too formal and felt madiba was informal. >> i know you find that too. >> she called him grandfather. this sense of how they embrace him. >> rick stengel who co-authored mandela's biography, "long walk to freedom." did mand
. >> both michelle obama and barack obama have said how much he inspired them when mrs. michelle met him last year. >> let's listen in. >> we were talking earlier about the name nelson mandela. the name also madiba. explain that because many refer to him as madiba. >> it's better than mr. mandela or mandela. he actually preferred to be called madiba and i think people didn't know how to refer to him. the sense he was a father figure or a grandfather played in and he was...
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obama. i want to talk about security altogether. that whole group on air force one. do they all hang out together? >> actually they did, anderson. we're told the bushes and obamas and secretary clinton were in the private conference room around the table hanging out and actually exchanging stories about their encounters with nelson mandela. would have been a fascinating conversation because between the three contingents there having these experiences with mandela that spanned three administrations and then after that, you know how it is on a long haul flight, even if you like the person you're traveling with, you need a little down time and alone time. the obamas retired to their cabin and the bushes took the medical office right behind their cabin and secretary clinton retired to the senior staff cabin. >> and president clinton, former president carter, they're coming separately on different flights. so many world leaders, very interesting not only from a security standpoint, but just logistically. you have world leaders that do not communicate with the united state
obama. i want to talk about security altogether. that whole group on air force one. do they all hang out together? >> actually they did, anderson. we're told the bushes and obamas and secretary clinton were in the private conference room around the table hanging out and actually exchanging stories about their encounters with nelson mandela. would have been a fascinating conversation because between the three contingents there having these experiences with mandela that spanned three...
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even president obama when he went to south africa just a few months ago talked about the great transformation in all sorts of ways. there are many many ways, south africa for awhile was the engine of africa for a long time after mandela and democracy came. but it's slowing down obviously the growth, and there is massive corruption as robyn said. and the president pointed that out. this is something that's really sort of harmed the fabric of society there. it is now one of the most unequal societies in the world. and really that hope of the rainbow nation which mandela and mandelaism sustained is being very, very, very, very stressed and the fabric is tearing apart. >> and they're new to democracy. we've been working at it for two centuries. to go back into the days when i was working with him during the election in 1994, he was determined to win more than two-thirds of the vote so the anc could amend the constitution. it is a one-party state. they saw it as a one-party state. they didn't see anything wrong with that. as democracy becomes more sophisticated it has to become a multi-party state
even president obama when he went to south africa just a few months ago talked about the great transformation in all sorts of ways. there are many many ways, south africa for awhile was the engine of africa for a long time after mandela and democracy came. but it's slowing down obviously the growth, and there is massive corruption as robyn said. and the president pointed that out. this is something that's really sort of harmed the fabric of society there. it is now one of the most unequal...
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take it easy, obama care fans and foes. i'm talking about repealing prohibition. it ended 80 years ago this hour. cheers! i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." >>> the world lead. it's the city where terrorists attacked and killed a u.s. ambassador and three other americans more than a year ago. today, another u.s. citizen has been slain in benghazi, libya. who was ronald thomas smith ii? can his family expect justice? >>> the national lead. with his son's suicide, this has been the worst year of pastor rick warren's life but he has relied on his faith to get through it. pastor warren joins us live to share his theory that faith can lighten the burden not only on your soul but on your health. >>> and the politics lead. how to talk to a woman. no, it's not a book full of cheesy pick-up lines. it's a crash course for the men of the republican party. they are getting tips on communicating with female voters. lesson one, lose the idiotic remarks about rape. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with the world lead. ronnie smith, an
take it easy, obama care fans and foes. i'm talking about repealing prohibition. it ended 80 years ago this hour. cheers! i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." >>> the world lead. it's the city where terrorists attacked and killed a u.s. ambassador and three other americans more than a year ago. today, another u.s. citizen has been slain in benghazi, libya. who was ronald thomas smith ii? can his family expect justice? >>> the national lead. with his son's suicide,...
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struck in their own talks. >> listen to jimmy carter, the former president of the united states speaking about this handshake, this encounter. jimmy carter also in south africa right now. he did a telephone interview with cnn's becky anderson. >> i think it was something significant. i've known raul castro quite well for a number of years i've known his brother fidel, as well. that was the first time i believe an incumbent american president has shaken hands with a leader of cuba. i hope it will be an omen for the future. >> now, he was mistaken on that part, jimmy carter, because bill clinton as the incumbent president of the united states back in 2000 did shake hands not with raul castro but with fidel castro. you remember that. >> i do remember it and i remember at first, the white house denied the handshake and corrected its denial and admitted to it. this is a very different moment. first of all, fidel castro is not in power. raul is in the second year of his final term in office. we are four years away from a cuba when the castros will not be leading it. that's important. >> if tha
struck in their own talks. >> listen to jimmy carter, the former president of the united states speaking about this handshake, this encounter. jimmy carter also in south africa right now. he did a telephone interview with cnn's becky anderson. >> i think it was something significant. i've known raul castro quite well for a number of years i've known his brother fidel, as well. that was the first time i believe an incumbent american president has shaken hands with a leader of cuba. i...
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obama not only knew him but he lived with him. the question is, is this a big deal? we're talking about it right now to break it down a historian at princeton and david gergen who joins us from atlanta, he is a cnn senior political analyst and a former white house adviser to four presidents. gentlemen, thank you for being here. david, let's start with you. you know what it's like to work at a white house and deal with media questions especially on sensitive issues, how, however, does a white house put out false information like it did on the president's relationship to an uncle? >> well, let me say for beginners, i don't think this is a big deal. i think it's a modest deal. i think it reflerkts a sloppiness within the white house operation. but we've had other presidents who have had relatives who have rather inconvenient histories, let us say, and there's always been a fairly strong effort by the white house staff to distance the president from that inconvenient relative if possible. that seems to what has gone on here. what is odd is that the president must have kn
obama not only knew him but he lived with him. the question is, is this a big deal? we're talking about it right now to break it down a historian at princeton and david gergen who joins us from atlanta, he is a cnn senior political analyst and a former white house adviser to four presidents. gentlemen, thank you for being here. david, let's start with you. you know what it's like to work at a white house and deal with media questions especially on sensitive issues, how, however, does a white...
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. >> we are already talking about it for a year and a half. >>> president obama having trouble talking about a meeting with a controversial relative. >> he said he never met with a relative in the country illeg illegal illegally. brian todd with more. >> reporter: poppy and victor, this is about an uncle of the president who has gone through legal problems with immigration and it is about the impression the white house has given. white house aides say they weren't doing that. he is a 69-year-old man who works in a liquor store in boston. he is caught up in the president's political migraine. his name is omar. the president's uncle. the boston globe cited the white house as the president and uncle had never met. the white house press secretary now says this. >> the president said he, in fact, had met omar obama when he moved to cambridge for law school and stayed with him for a brief period of time. are. >> reporter: in recent days, he said he stayed with him for days in the 1980s. why the differing accounts? >> back when this arose, folks looked at the record. >> reporter: jay carney s
. >> we are already talking about it for a year and a half. >>> president obama having trouble talking about a meeting with a controversial relative. >> he said he never met with a relative in the country illeg illegal illegally. brian todd with more. >> reporter: poppy and victor, this is about an uncle of the president who has gone through legal problems with immigration and it is about the impression the white house has given. white house aides say they weren't...
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what robin was talking about, and that is security and the kind of complex situation they're dealing with potentially a nightmare. secret service had very little time to prepare for the trip. athena jones is joining us at the white house. we're very much aware of what it takes. there's not a lot of advance work when you have the limited amount of time. air force one expected to touch down what, early tomorrow morning? >> early tomorrow morning. i think about 1:00 a.m., they'll be making a fuel stop on the way. bottom line, these are the kinds of trips that take weeks and months to prepare. this was compressed into a very short time line. the spokesman for the secret service say they've done things in less time and an they've known that any son mandela was ill for some time and they've been working with the state department and south african government. they have agents based in pretoria and rome able to work on logistics necessary 37 they're the same protocols are required anytime the president goes somewhere. they still have to get certain things done, everything from securing walk
what robin was talking about, and that is security and the kind of complex situation they're dealing with potentially a nightmare. secret service had very little time to prepare for the trip. athena jones is joining us at the white house. we're very much aware of what it takes. there's not a lot of advance work when you have the limited amount of time. air force one expected to touch down what, early tomorrow morning? >> early tomorrow morning. i think about 1:00 a.m., they'll be making a...
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and the president very interestingly at one point, brooke, talked about the term obama care. people in washington have been saying the president hasn't been using the word obama care as much lately. what's the deal with that? the president used it during this address to younger folk s here at the white house. here's what the president had to say. >> i know people call this law obama care. and that's okay. because i do care. and i do. i care about you. i care about families. i care about americans. but no matter how much i care, the truth is that for your friends and your family, the most important source of information is not going to be me. it's going to be you. they are going to trust you. >> so a little bit of the president picking himself up, dusting himself off from that disast rr rollout of healthcare.gov. no briefing here at the white house today, but on a conference call with reporters, officials with the administration, they were talking about how they also believe that enrollment is picking up, brooke. that is really the best news that this white house can be hoping
and the president very interestingly at one point, brooke, talked about the term obama care. people in washington have been saying the president hasn't been using the word obama care as much lately. what's the deal with that? the president used it during this address to younger folk s here at the white house. here's what the president had to say. >> i know people call this law obama care. and that's okay. because i do care. and i do. i care about you. i care about families. i care about...
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i will tell you, though, president obama has dedicated a lot of time to talking about unemployment insurance, and it appears that that is not going to be part of this. you have uninsurance benefits expires for 1.3 million people at the end of the year. a lot of this is going to be in this bargain. it appears at this point, that that's still going to be an issue unresolved from this agreement. >> i know you've been checking. this is a deal to keep the government going. there won't be a government shutdown. it's going to be, there's going to be controversy as you pointed out, but it has nothing to do with raising the nation's debt ceiling which has to be raised in the next couple months as well. >> the dead lean for that is february. that's going to be a whole different fight. and it is an important fight and it is one that republicans have continued since they were elected the majority of the house to make it a fight, because they want to use it to cut spending, but unclear if they're really going to do that, given the fact that the president really held the line, and the reason he did it was
i will tell you, though, president obama has dedicated a lot of time to talking about unemployment insurance, and it appears that that is not going to be part of this. you have uninsurance benefits expires for 1.3 million people at the end of the year. a lot of this is going to be in this bargain. it appears at this point, that that's still going to be an issue unresolved from this agreement. >> i know you've been checking. this is a deal to keep the government going. there won't be a...
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i think when we talk about the relationship the obamas have had with mandela, it wasn't as personal as the relationship mandela had with the clintons. when i spoke to mrs. obama last year, he couldn't come, so he sent his family ahead. it was quite interesting. i said, what did you say to him, what did you talk about and what did it mean? she expressed a sense that she had nothing to say. she didn't know what to say to mandela, because with this arc of history, with the sense of being with this man, she found herself just being able to say thank you. that was -- you couldn't really make small talk with nelson mandela. this was a man who you actually -- what can you say? she found that. >> he was so ill at that time, too. >> his hearing wasn't good either. >> he wasn't normally communicating as he might have done before. >> the message outlives the man. that's a big point you're hearing at the memorial today. mandela would want that put first, that it is not about him, it is about the message. the president said, i can't help but think when he was pound the words about what reconciliati
i think when we talk about the relationship the obamas have had with mandela, it wasn't as personal as the relationship mandela had with the clintons. when i spoke to mrs. obama last year, he couldn't come, so he sent his family ahead. it was quite interesting. i said, what did you say to him, what did you talk about and what did it mean? she expressed a sense that she had nothing to say. she didn't know what to say to mandela, because with this arc of history, with the sense of being with this...
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lets talk about what's going on. tuesday, nelson mandela's memorial service, president obama, former presidents george w. bush, bill clinton, all going to attend. move on to "times" person of the year. "times" editors choosing the person of the year who had such an impact or people talked about so much. as for the online poll, we know egypt's defense minister came out on top followed by others such as new jersey chris christie, amazon ceo jeff besos. and yes, miley cyrus as well. friday, lets talk about budget negotiation deadlines for congress. uh-huh. getting it done is going to avoid another federal shutdown. we'll see if it happens. saturday the one-year anniversary of the sandy hook shooting tragedy. one year ago a gunman opened fire in a connecticut elementary school killing 26 people, most of them young children. who can forget that day. i know you remember where you were that moment you heard about it. sunday nelson mandela will be laid to rest, funeral and burial will be on the grounds of the leader's childh
lets talk about what's going on. tuesday, nelson mandela's memorial service, president obama, former presidents george w. bush, bill clinton, all going to attend. move on to "times" person of the year. "times" editors choosing the person of the year who had such an impact or people talked about so much. as for the online poll, we know egypt's defense minister came out on top followed by others such as new jersey chris christie, amazon ceo jeff besos. and yes, miley cyrus as...
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gap, certainly plays a part in the right track-wrong track as another way to put it. >> president obama talking about it the other day. >> but the fact is the situation's gotten worse in the last three years. more than 90% of the income increases over the past three years have gone to the top 1%. so it's possible that you have -- look, these are great numbers. but the fact is that a lot of people are not feeling it, even if they have a job. so i don't think that it's just the jobless rate that people look at, because only jobless rate that counts is the one in your household. a lot of people may have a job, but it's not enough of a job, or it doesn't pay enough, or it's only part-time, whatever it is, and that's why you see the differential between, hey, look, the jobless rate is going down, and people going, i think we're on the wrong track. >> candy crowley, the brilliant candy crowley, thank you for joining me. tune in for stre"state of the u" at 9:00 in the morning. >> here's breaking news we have to get to now. as we reported a couple minutes ago, as many as six people taken to a h
gap, certainly plays a part in the right track-wrong track as another way to put it. >> president obama talking about it the other day. >> but the fact is the situation's gotten worse in the last three years. more than 90% of the income increases over the past three years have gone to the top 1%. so it's possible that you have -- look, these are great numbers. but the fact is that a lot of people are not feeling it, even if they have a job. so i don't think that it's just the...
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, do they talk about that at all? when the former presidents talk, mostly we learn nothing because those are off the record communications. but boy, you would love to know if they exchange any notes or historical reflections or observations. but it's a big historic event and we will find out in bits and pieces after about the interaction between the presidents themselves. >> it would be interesting to see what if anything happens, because there will be representatives, high ranking officials from iran, for example, attending the memorial service, presumably the funeral on sunday as well. and these kinds of diplomatic awkward moments potentially could be significant. >> sometimes awkward moments, sometimes either the front of the cameras or away from the cameras, a chance for somebody even in a very brief conversation, maybe, to start a relationship or to continue or advance a relationship, or let's just say, the president raul castro, if the president of the united states wanted to change a relationship, he could do i
, do they talk about that at all? when the former presidents talk, mostly we learn nothing because those are off the record communications. but boy, you would love to know if they exchange any notes or historical reflections or observations. but it's a big historic event and we will find out in bits and pieces after about the interaction between the presidents themselves. >> it would be interesting to see what if anything happens, because there will be representatives, high ranking...
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president obama is on his way, leading this national delegation of politicians and dignitaries. on air force one, former secretary of state, hillary clinton. also george and laura bush. several others. they're getting ready for this massive memorial. huge undertaking, and such a brief period of time. just think of the logistics here. this is just the beginning. after the memorial, mandela will lie in state for three days. and then be buried on sunday. and our chief international correspondent christian eon amanpour is live now from johannesburg where it's just after 10:00 at night your time. let's beginith this massive undertaking, the logistics and really the security at this stadium. >> yes, indeed, they're going -- obviously, as you can imagine, all out for security, and president obama is bringing three former u.s. presidents with him. not just george w. bush, but president clinton and president carter. president obama is due to speak at the memorial tomorrow, and this is going to be a huge event. most people think it's going to be a really raucous, joyous event. a lot of mu
president obama is on his way, leading this national delegation of politicians and dignitaries. on air force one, former secretary of state, hillary clinton. also george and laura bush. several others. they're getting ready for this massive memorial. huge undertaking, and such a brief period of time. just think of the logistics here. this is just the beginning. after the memorial, mandela will lie in state for three days. and then be buried on sunday. and our chief international correspondent...